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‘Ilm (Science) And Knowledge (Ma’Arifah) Or (Abstract Knowledge And Practical Science)
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 ‘Ilm (Science) and knowledge (Ma’arifah) OR (Abstract Knowledge and Practical Science)

Prof. Hasan Yahya, Professor of Philosophy

Introduction  Knowing other language or languages is always a benefit for human being. It is -I believe- an important factor to enhance understanding among individuals as well as groups. Sometimes, however,  the  second to mother tongue language reduces disability to understand  the real meaning of the written language. Because knowing languages without understanding the culture behind that language gives sometimes misunderstanding of the meaning of the concepts used . In this paper, illustration of such misunderstanding is given, then the two Arabic concepts ” ‘ILM and Ma’arifah” are explained. What exactly was misconceived in translation, with no intention of making that misconception. Some rules concludes the argument about the two concepts. ‘ILM (unlimited knowledge) and Ma’arifah (practical limited knowledge about something)  

 The Problem of Translation: Rosenthal brought the following saying about knowledge (Ilm) in the forward of his book “Knowledge Triumph “, he says: “AL-’ILMU shay’un la yu’tika ba’dahu hatta tu’tiyahu kullaka, fa-idhá  a’taytaho  kullaka fa-antá min i’ta’ihi laka  l-ba’da, ‘ala khatarin.” (an-Nazzam as quoted by al-Jahiz). Rosenthal Translated the above statement as follows: “KNOWLEDGE  is something that will not give part of itself to you until you give your all to it. And when you give your all to it, then you stand a chance but you cannot be sure that it will give you that part.” . If you do not the original language, which is in this case Arabic, you might accept Rosenthal translation, and you might understand what the translation means to you or you might not if you do not understand  the meaning, which knowledge do you think was lacking? Yours or the translator’s? Which one you consider to be wrong? Is it the original writer or the reader? Think of this?  When I have read the Arabic saying five years ago, I did not understand it immediately, even I have a degree in Arabic literature, I read it again slowly, and asked myself: What did the author means? The statement was written in English, therefore, I began to transform it into Arabic, I read it ten times, and every time I discovered a new broader meaning that that, the  one before it. At last I-THINK- I understood the statement. Therefore, I want to explain it. Anyway, Rosenthal himself was guessing that he was wrong in the translation especially the last part of the statement.

 Explanation:     The English translation have missed an important ingredient in the Arabic meaning. To explain what was missing, I will give the following simple question composed into mathematical equations, to illustrate the meaning.

IF exchanging sum of (’ilm)  = all man’s lifetime        (1)

      THEN  All ( ‘ILM )    =     (What?)                (2)

 It equals Sum + Sum + Sum + … or lifetime1 + Lifetime2 + L3 +….    (3)     

OR  1000 sums  (of ‘ILM) = 1000  lifetime       (4)  

    BUT     ‘ILM  never  comes  to an end, which means that all human race lives from Adam to the Day of Judgment will not pay for a complete possession of the unlimited ‘ILM (such ‘ILM is only possessed by Allah-ST, which is the belief of the original author.)

 THEN  we can deduce the following equation:

 All sums  of ‘ILM    =  All human’s lifetime in all generations   (5)

 Furthermore, here is another example: It is like someone lived 100 years, and wanted to buy a cat which cost for example ( US$200.00), how much ten bills he needs to pay the full price of the cat? Suppose each piece of the ten bill, equals one’s lifetime, (in the above example), and the cat (as in the example-means ‘ILM). If you understand this reasoning, THEN you will understand the statement. In conclusion to the above argument, Rosenthal’s translation was incomplete, and may misleading to the point made by the one who said that wisdom.

According to  the above reasoning, it would be understood that the concept of ‘ILM cannot be obtained in one’s lifetime, because it needs to be obtained in full not parts, so it will take a number of human lifetimes to be completed, and it will never will, because Human beings might discover something today, or tomorrow, they will remain disabled to get to the end of knowledge-‘ILM. Such ability far from achieving in one’s or several or all lifetimes .So, after this reasoning, I will provide my own understanding for the above statement in Arabic to mean in English, the following:

‘Ilm is (like something does not give you some of it, unless you give him back your whole life – efforts and commitments-. When  you acquire more over your limits, (and are already give your lifetime for it, another some of ‘ILM needs another person to continue getting another some of knowledge-‘ILM. To acquire another chunk of ‘ILM you don’t have your lifetime available after your death, in this case another lifetime is needed to continue with knowledge, In such bargain , you want to have another some, but you cannot get it, because you cannot provide your lifetime again, you are dead, as human who have only one lifetime – it is a weak position), THEN you are in danger, someone else will replace you to give his lifetime for another sum of knowledge.”   

This saying can be explained as a wisdom provided for human beings, to learn about their limitations in terms of time and ability to acquire knowledge-”ILM, as humans compared to the  unlimited ‘ILM of Allah (SWT). ** [ From a long research paper on the concept of "Ilm (Science) by the author.]

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comment by helbergonzalez
Posted on September 11, 2009 at 1:21 am

After a lot of attempts they found the key ¡¡
Beautiful ¡ ¡

comment by GianlucaFrassani
Posted on September 11, 2009 at 1:41 am

Miticiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii………….

comment by giuseppegarofalo
Posted on September 11, 2009 at 2:20 am

questa è storia!

comment by Jack P
Posted on September 11, 2009 at 1:32 am

1. What you think you know. There are very simple things like learning how to count to ten, but then this could become more complicated because you might want to do this in another language. But then there are very complex things where you cannot admit to having knowledge compared to someone else, because everyone's knowledge is different e.g. opinions on philosophical issues, people's diaries etc.
2. There are none and there are. There are no limits because there is something to learn everyday from different people, with different lives. But then there are limits such as 2+2=4
3. To know something is to not know it. You can only fully understand something if you realise that you will never fully understand it. Your 'knowledge' is your perception and so putting that knowledge into practice mean you are constantly judging and voicing opinions based on your knowledge. If you do not judge something and accept it for what it is, if you do not have an opinion on a matter and if you truly just accept the situation without applying your 'knowledge' to it, then this when you realise that knowledge does not exist.

comment by Shaun
Posted on September 11, 2009 at 2:19 am
comment by 28ottobre1992
Posted on September 11, 2009 at 6:09 pm

concordo appieno

comment by Travis
Posted on September 12, 2009 at 12:48 am

a posteriori means "you see it so you believe it".
This is just experience-based knowledge, like "if you lube the chain on your bicycle, it runs better".

comment by mosad2008
Posted on September 12, 2009 at 9:45 am

Concordo….

comment by Robusto103
Posted on September 12, 2009 at 9:56 am

Stupendo

comment by Kiyoshisaur
Posted on September 12, 2009 at 11:31 am
comment by 28ottobre1992
Posted on September 12, 2009 at 11:35 pm

Mitici!!!!

comment by TAmovieman
Posted on September 13, 2009 at 3:43 am

grandi Trolls!!! perchè non ci sono loro sul palcoscenico della musica italiana?

comment by C. Hazel
Posted on September 12, 2009 at 10:03 pm

1. Some diseases can occur through different genetic abnormalities. For example, there are two main types of colorectal cancer which can occur, one due to mutations in DNA repair machinery (microsatellite instability) and the other due to incorrect chromosomal segregation during the cell cycle (chromosomal instability). Therefore, if we developed a drug targetting the mutated gene product in MIN, it would be very useful for these patients but ineffective in CIN patients. By screening for the gene we are able to apply the correct medical treatment.

2. Genetic analysis can be used to identify inherited genetic disorders and hence treat the patient earlier than at the presentation of first symptoms.

3. Every person has a unique genetic profile which may say things about their potential to develop certain conditions (for example schizophrenia, cancer, Huntingtons). On an individual level, the knowledge that you are predisposed to a condition (such as Huntingtons, which currently has no cure) may be hard to cope with. If an employer or insurance company were to get hold of a genetic profile, they would have the potential to make a decision based on your long term predisposition to given conditions, instead of basing decisions on your actual medical profile. There has to be, and I believe there is, a high level of regulation with regards to any genetic tests which are performed.

comment by Musicadalpassato
Posted on September 13, 2009 at 12:50 pm

Invece di scassarci le palle ogni anno con le canzonette sentite e risentite , viste e riviste in tv quando devono riempire i buchi…mi chiedo perche’non invitano mai questi gruppi per suonare un tipo di musica non convenzionale come questa…Straordinaria.

comment by ie-Brazil
Posted on September 13, 2009 at 7:32 am

Knowledge involves possessing information that accords with reality. Consciousness, on the other hand, is an awareness. I can know about consciousness, and I can be conscious of my knowledge, so they relate to one another.

I would disagree that consciousness is "the knowledge of why what happens (what goes on) happens (or goes on)." That seems to suggest that consciousness is an ability to understand the meaning of knowledge–but that doesn't seem to be the role of consciousness at all. Instead, "why what happens … happens" is understanding–a type of meta-knowledge.

comment by SALMAN T
Posted on September 14, 2009 at 2:21 am

Always always ask questions and get people to talk about themselves people will always talk about themselves.

comment by pinky♥
Posted on September 14, 2009 at 3:00 am

I haven't been a member long, but I've learned that there are quite a few people that think like me ..and the others need to seek professional attention! :)

So far an overall good experience.

comment by Third P
Posted on September 14, 2009 at 9:35 am

The knowledge you have of the world creates the objects you are experiencing. The actual existence or non-existence of something "out there" in the world is not something you can determine or experience for yourself, except through the help of your knowledge. And this knowledge is not yours; it is something which you and your ancestors have accumulated over a long time. What you call the "act of knowing" is nothing other than this accumulated memory. You have personally added to and modified that knowledge, but essentially it doesn't belong to you at all.
There is nothing there inside you but the totality of this knowledge you have accumulated.

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