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It’s time that our senators and representatives be forced to have the health care plan AND the “social security” plan that they legislate for the general public. The quality of public decisions will improve when it applies to those creating and voting these programs into law.
Comment by ResearcherMom — August 21, 2009 @ 9:14 am
Yes. If you have unlimited resources as an American you have the best health care in the world. If you are an ordinary citizen you simply don't. Even the average health care plan generally does not cover the basics like European systems do. All too often Americans find out just how under insured they are when sickness strikes.
http://www.commonwealthfund.org/Content/Publications/In-the-Literature/2008/Jun/How-Many-Are-Underinsured–Trends-Among-U-S–Adults–2003-and-2007.aspx
That's important because when those people are lucky enough to stay healthy they will never see a problem whatsoever just as their fellow countrymen were just fine with their coverage before tradgedy happened.
http://www.click2houston.com/investigates/12538706/detail.html
http://www.guaranteedhealthcare.org/your_story/my-insurance-company-denied-my-doctors-prescription
http://www.rhonawaxman.com/blog/insurance-company-medical-exam-denied-me-surgery.html
This is the same thing as with the standard of living. Americans have a higher income on average than Americans but more detailed data shows it's the top 1 percent income earners that's responsible for the whole difference. Middle clas an poor Americans are much worse of than their European counterparts
That's ultimately what it is about
Comment by гà¹à¹“คгє — August 21, 2009 @ 9:17 am
Okay if you won't have any clinical skills or any managerial/administration skills, just what will you do? You'll have a lot of knowledge but nothing to do with it.
Comment by Ashley A — August 21, 2009 @ 9:51 am
Nothing against sick children. I do have something against government officials who want a health care plan that’s way better than the one they’re trying to dump on Americans who are living in poverty. A lot of these high-salaried government officials don’t deserve the free health care they’re getting. And they won’t ever wait in line to see a doctor.
Comment by MishuTaste — August 21, 2009 @ 10:11 am
You dont get it fixed free. Your government taxes you up the ying yang for it.
Its only free to people who dont understand economics.
Comment by MeLikeGoFast — August 21, 2009 @ 10:39 pm
“the government is in the business of keeping Americans alive”
Haha you liberals kill me. Would you like some more Kool-aid ??
The government is in the business of getting re-elected.
Comment by ImAGrasshopper — August 22, 2009 @ 2:30 am
OMG…NO!!!!!!!!!
Comment by Toad Face — August 22, 2009 @ 12:13 pm
Bachmann is a well-known nut job who will say anything to attack Obama. Things like Obama’s plan to send America’s youth to political reeducation camps to be brainwashed. Or the connection between the Democrats and Swine Flu. If you love Sarah Palin chances are you will like Bachmann too.
Comment by jaiguevara — August 22, 2009 @ 2:04 pm
In fact, President Bush himself appointed numerous czars in order to deal with various public crises and controversies, including a cybersecurity czar, regulatory czar, AIDS czar, bird-flu czar and Katrina czar. Moreover, Karl Roves criticism of Obama is ironic, given his role in an administration that was marked by the expansion of executive power.
Comment by hiten369 — August 22, 2009 @ 5:25 pm
The government cant even run itself much less care for people..
LOL
Typical statist who want the state to dictate everyones lives.
Comment by MeLikeGoFast — August 22, 2009 @ 9:01 pm
Better yet, look up ad hominem. That seems to be the true reasoning behind liberals.
Comment by the17train — August 23, 2009 @ 2:44 am
Comment by Baby Cakes — August 23, 2009 @ 2:54 am
In any plan made by Clinton the only financial incentives are to put money in her personal bank account.
Comment by loyal — August 23, 2009 @ 9:06 pm
They have a 100 percent covered plan for them and their families for life (assuming they serve at least 6 years), along with an excellent pension plan for life.
They will care about the crisis if it is something the voters want! After all, if they are not acting in the interest of the voters, they will lose their seat and their health care plan.
Unfortunately, there is so much disagreement between the "left" and the "right" that it is difficult for congress to do anything. In addition, many people (even those who truly need health care reforms) vote based on moral values, leaving health care to be ignored.
Comment by SpaceBear — August 24, 2009 @ 1:01 am
Here's something to think about: according to the census bureau, of the 47 million or so that are uninsured almost 10 million are illegal immigrants, 8 million make over 75,000 a year, another 8 million make over 50,000 a year, and 14 million qualify for medic-aid or medicare but do not apply. Hmmm. makes you think that maybe our system isn't so bad after all. So Obama needs to quit with his fear mongering and quit lying to us. There are a lot of unemployed, but 47 million is very misleading. Give us a real number!
Also the idea is that by giving health care to everyone, businesses don't have to pay for it, and then they can give more jobs, increase profit, and help the economy. Which sounds great, if you're stupid. Since Universal health care is insanely expensive, guess who pays for it? raised taxes on business and on the rich, (and apparently companies that aren't green). So it's basically a beat-around the the bush way to distribute wealth. And ask yourself this? Is it a good idea to take from from the rich? Take money from a poor man, and he becomes poorer, take money from a rich man, and he goes to work and fires his workers. So which is worse? MAYBE GOVERNMENT JUST SHOULDN'T TAKE PEOPLES MONEY!
Comment by Cat - astrophe — August 24, 2009 @ 12:13 pm
You need to talk with a local agent that works with all of the major companies in your area. Insurance companies and the plans they offer will vary from state to state and the premium with any one plan can vary by zip code.
At 22 if you are in good health you should be able to find a catastrophic plan for less than $100 in most states and a comprehensive plan shouldn't be much more than $100.
The agent will be able to explain what you need to know – there is not enough space here to tell you everything. You'll need to know about the deductible, the co-insurance, the co-pays and what is covered with the co-pay, what procedures are and are not subject to the deductible, what is excluded from the plans, which doctors accept the plans, the different types of plans and how they operate, the prescription coverage if any, and much more. There is no extra charge using an agent.
Comment by Tyler S — August 24, 2009 @ 12:57 pm
Depends on the perspective. The "socialized" (please use in quotation marks) perspective is that users of health care are the community as a whole; thus, 'just' is defined as minimizing the losing individuals. "Free market's" views are that the users are individuals or groups of individuals; thus, 'just' is defined as maximizing the number of individuals 'satisfied.'
From both common political and ethical perspective, a child is often unable to contribute to the discussion of 'individuals to be lost' in "socialized health care" or 'user satisfaction' in the "free market." Given the assumptions that pediatric care is satisfactory for most children, "socialized health care" is more just because the intrinsic cost-of-life-saved would then be higher even though some children would fall through the cracks. HOWEVER, given the assumption above and also that the income difference between the richest and poorest people is minimal, the "free market" is more just because parents can decide what is most 'satisfactory' without too much undue financial burden.
Comment by C.S. — August 24, 2009 @ 6:48 pm
Instead of attacking her, why don’t you liberals attack her statements. Straw Man Fallacy. Look it up.
Comment by the17train — August 24, 2009 @ 8:17 pm